关于(3),那像火球这种过反射的AOE,怎么判定呢直接没了啊,实际上连火球都不用,炽火胶就够了。
1)也许有说法。字面没提,看上去对友军同样有效比较合理。
2)按上下文是共格处理比较方便,不然很难判诶。
3)成功的攻击摧毁镜影指的是 attack roll 命中,aoe清镜影以讹传讹。火球的例子是说反应会像真人一样,不会由此暴露。
有几个疑问:
(1)法术中只强调了对敌人的效果。那么在友军眼中是什么样的?会影响友军对自己释放法术吗?有PC认为法术描述说只影响敌人,那么对友军来说是完全无影响。但是怎么解释这种区别呢?
(2)每个分身都至少在另一个分身或本体5尺内,那么这些分身是如何排列的?围成一个圈?排成一长条?还是影影绰绰叠加在一起?会算作占据了多个格子吗?
(3)任何成功的攻击都会摧毁分身,这个怎么理解?只要吃到伤害就消失?那又和后面的“被范围法术攻击会作出应有反应”似乎又有矛盾。既然被火球打中,肯定吃到了伤害,那如果如前理解,一定会消失了,又何必再强调会有受伤的反应呢?按我的理解,是不是单体物理攻击或单体法术命中才会消灭幻象?
Q:Are the multiple figments from a mirror image spell legal targets for cleaving? That is, if you have the Cleave feat and you hit an image and destroy it, can you then attack another target within reach (such as another figment from the spell or perhaps the spell user)? What about Whirlwind Attack? Can you use this feat to attack all the images around the spell user? What about spells that allow multiple targets, such as magic missile? Can you aim magic missiles at different images?——DND3.5 FAQ
A:For all intents and purposes, the figments from a foe’s mirror image spell are your foes. You aim your spells and your attacks at the figments just as though they were real creatures.
Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image. When you use a spell that allows you to select multiple creatures as targets, such as magic missile, you can choose multiple images as targets.
If you have the Cleave or Great Cleave feat, destroying an image with a melee attack triggers the feat (and your cleaving attack might well strike the spell user instead of another image). Likewise, you can use Whirlwind Attack to strike at any image you can reach. A Whirlwind Attack almost certainly will allow you to strike once at the spell user.
Q:Is there a way to decide which squares the figments from a mirror image spell occupy? Or do the images distribute themselves randomly? If it’s the latter, how does the DM decide where they go?
A:Although the spell description says the images from a mirror image spell always stay within 5 feet of either the user or another image, it’s easiest to assume that all the images occupy the same space the spell user occupies. Any attack that can reach the user’s space can affect an image.
Q:The mirror image spell description says the images have an Armor Class of 10 + size modifier + Dexterity modifier. Can you improve this with spells the spellcaster casts on herself, such as shield or mage armor? If so, why doesn’t the spell description say the images have the caster’s Armor Class? What happens if the caster has cover from her surroundings? Will cover improve the images’ ACs? What about concealment? Will fog or foliage produce a miss chance for a foe that aims an attack at an image? What about magical concealment, such as a blur or displacement spell?
A:The images from a mirror image spell don’t use the caster’s Armor Class. Use the formula in the spell description to calculate each image’s Armor Class (10 + caster’s size modifier + caster’s Dexterity modifier). Use the caster’s current Dexterity modifier for each image’s Armor Class, no matter how the caster happened to get that modifier. Any Armor Class improvements the caster might have from equipment she carries or wears, or from magic operating on her person, don’t apply to the images. For example, a Medium user with a Dexterity score of 16, a shield spell, and a suit of +2 leather armor has an Armor Class of 21 (10 +4 shield, +4 armor, and +3 Dexterity), but her images have an Armor Class of 13 (10 +3 Dexterity).
It’s easiest to assume the images share the user’s location on the battlefield, and gain any cover bonuses that might apply to the spell user in that location. If the character in the previous example were behind cover, she would have an Armor Class of 25 and her images would have an Armor Class of 17.
If the user has concealment from her surroundings, the images have the same concealment. The images also look just like the caster, and they share purely visual effects such as the blur or displacement spell. If the mirror image user is also using either of these effects, an attack aimed at an image has the same miss chance an attack aimed at the caster has.
Q:What happens if a mirror image user is incorporeal? Are the user’s images also incorporeal? Do attacks aimed at the images have the incorporeal miss chance? If the incorporeal user moves through a wall, can the images move through the wall, too? What happens if the user goes to another plane? Do the images go along? What if the mirror image user employs a blink spell?
A:Incorporeal spell casters create corporeal effects. So the figments from an incorporeal user’s mirror image spell are themselves corporeal. Attacks aimed at the images have no incorporeal miss chance.
The images, however, appear like the caster and move as the caster moves. If an incorporeal user moves through a wall, its mirror images also appear to move through the wall.
If a mirror image user moves to another plane, the images go along. If the user employs a blink spell, the images blink right along with the user, and any attack aimed at an image has the same miss chance (50%) it has if aimed at the caster.
Q:What happens when an attacker accidentally uses a touch spell against a figment from a mirror image spell? You can hold the charge with a touch spell, right? So if you touch an image (which really isn’t there), is the touch spell discharged? Does the touch spell user get a chance to disbelieve the image and avoid discharging the spell?
A:As noted in an earlier question, the figments from a mirror image spell function just like creatures for the purpose of aiming spells. If a foe using a touch spell touches an image, the spell is harmlessly discharged (though the image is destroyed).
There is no chance to disbelieve a mirror image spell—if there was, the spell would have a saving throw entry and the entry would read “Will disbelief.”
关于一个法术的讨论就很复杂了。放在同一个帖子会看的很累。多几个帖子对论坛影响不大吧?有几个疑问:
(1)法术中只强调了对敌人的效果。那么在友军眼中是什么样的?会影响友军对自己释放法术吗?有PC认为法术描述说只影响敌人,那么对友军来说是完全无影响。但是怎么解释这种区别呢?
(2)每个分身都至少在另一个分身或本体5尺内,那么这些分身是如何排列的?围成一个圈?排成一长条?还是影影绰绰叠加在一起?会算作占据了多个格子吗?
(3)任何成功的攻击都会摧毁分身,这个怎么理解?只要吃到伤害就消失?那又和后面的“被范围法术攻击会作出应有反应”似乎又有矛盾。既然被火球打中,肯定吃到了伤害,那如果如前理解,一定会消失了,又何必再强调会有受伤的反应呢?按我的理解,是不是单体物理攻击或单体法术命中才会消灭幻象?
1)这个法术本身并无识别敌我的效果,因此队友当然也能看到你的幻象并且无法通过外观识别出哪个是本体。但你当然可以通过交谈或者其他方式来告知队友哪一个是真的你(注意,打手势显然是无效的,因为每个幻象都会做出一模一样的手势)
2)排列显然会随机变化达到不断彼此混淆的效果,因此认为幻象没有固定的排列方式比较合理。至于幻象是否占据多个格子,实际上没有计算的必要性,因为任何会导致幻象减少的互动方式都是以你本人而非你所在的方格为目标的,或者至少是完全没有指定你邻近的方格的意义。
3)法术描述是“任何成功的攻击都会摧毁分身”,“攻击”在这里是个术语。具体定义在哪某忘记了,但可以从广义上理解为任何针对你的需要攻击骰或者指定目标的敌对行动;如近战攻击或者近战攻击的替代行动(绊摔、冲撞等),远程攻击,需要近战/远程命中的法术,(需要指定目标的)会让你过豁免的法术/其他特殊能力,等等等等。显然,这里所说的攻击不需要造成伤害;绊摔或者类似塔莎狂笑术、衰弱射线一类的当然也属于攻击,会导致幻象减少。
当然,后面火球的例子说明了AOE类型的攻击(不管造成不造成伤害)是无法用于分辨幻象的,因此在和镜影术互动的时候,只有需要指定一个幻象作为目标的攻击才会减少幻象的数目。例如怪物攻击里的碾压、尾扫一类的AOE攻击当然也不能用来分辨幻象,但同时指定多个目标的攻击(如魔法飞弹)显然可以。
另外,这种问法术效果的帖子某觉得完全可以合并……如果觉得排版多余,可以善用论坛BB code,如。
再顺便说一句,如果对中文翻译的法术效果有疑问,建议去看英文。d20srd.org在这方面非常方便。
AOE无法分辨是什么意思……我火球把受术者和他的幻影全部盖过去,幻影需要做反射豁免吗,还是说就是单纯的无效?所有的幻影都会做出和本体一样的行动,但数量并不会减少。从数据上说,所有的幻影都是你这个单位的一部分,不具有单独的数据(除了AC以外,毕竟幻影没有实体也没有魔法防护),当然不会有独立的豁免。
那么 新的问题来了 对于解除魔法的判定 怎么弄 如果一个目标 身上有镜影及多个法术效果 解除魔法 使用区域型解除 能有效果么?还是说 镜影必然不能被解除 因为 区域效果不起效?还是按从高到底环 镜影之前的都失败 刚好到镜影成功 才能解除?
如果用目标型 就需要先分辨说真身 或者说丢骰子刚好指定了真身才有效? 不然就是解除了一个幻象?
第2 排列的随机性 这个是每轮都自动变化 还是固定了 还是时刻都在变化中,受到具有镜影状态攻击的对象 能否因此而判断出攻击自身的就是本体 毕竟幻象是不具备攻击的能力 虽然能模仿 但实际并无 或者因为 幻象和本体因为占据 不同的格子 而被识破 比如攻击 移动 如果幻象和本体 都是占据同一个格子 那么对于“这些分身和你是独立分开的,但是又和你靠在一起。每个分身都在其它至少一个分身或你的5英尺之内”这句的描述 是否多余而矛盾 如果是分开而算做独立单位 又会出现判定麻烦的缘故 比如 超大型生物使用镜影 那占据的格子 就太多了 - - 甚至于 1个火球的范围都包括不了 还是说 镜影的效果 实际让 目标处于类似于薛定谔的状态?感觉如果 是同一个格子 那效果又比闪现都好了 1个1环的法术至于么?
第3 如果是类似于 集群攻击 怎么算?破镜影么?
另外 如果 真身装备了护盾别针之类的魔法物品 或者 抵抗能量伤害(火) 这种情况下 受到飞弹攻击 和灼热射线攻击 怎么判定 幻象不具备 护盾能力 直接被 飞弹打散 本体 因为有别针 对于免疫飞弹然后被识破?
如果说物理攻击力的碾压 扫尾之类的AOE不能分辨幻象,那么顺劈 大顺劈可以使用么?旋风攻击呢?还是只能多打