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TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => COC 討論區 => 主题作者是: shie2222 于 2023-11-11, 周六 15:42:50
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有做过独立游戏的大佬吗？
如果不用COC规则，只用克苏鲁神的名字和设定，还需要买版权吗？
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如果你要引入“规则”，那得去找混沌元素买版权，但他们给独立游戏版权的几率……
信用评级：1 投掷 : d100 = (19) = 19
克苏鲁神话体系有“部分”是进入公共版权领域的，主要是爱手艺以及同时代作者创作的一些早期作品，但桑迪·皮特森原创的那些，目前应该还是有版权的来着？
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纯正7e：找chaosium，但好像电子游戏改编授权已经授权出去了
只用名字和设定：细说的话你得看每个神＆怪物的授权，但确实很多是公版
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规则书和怪锤前面有好长一串版权声明，列出了书中哪些克苏鲁相关元素的设定的版权有主以及其所属。
一个常见的雷区是，常见的五角星旧印和三条线黄印版权所属C社。
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混沌元素：我的存在感已经低到这种程度了么？#画圈圈
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Copyright is complicated.
On the Cthulhu side. Cthulhu itself, as well as most of Lovecraft's work, are open source.
On the other hand, not ALL of the Cthulhu fictions may be good to use, as a big bit of "Lovecraftian" isn't by Lovecraft but from other writers, so you have to check individually.
On the Chaosium side... They are known to be quite strict with their stuffs.
I wouldn't think they'd sell their rights to make other games. I'd assume that PC game studios brought licenses from them to make games instead.
Though I don't see why they'd be interested in letting others getting on their home turf. If they want to make a COC-system game, they'd probably do it themselves.
Your idea isn't new; Japanese Doujin circle "AlchemyBlue" is pretty much making PC games based on Chaosium's Cthulhu, and they even translated one of it into English and got on Steam (re: "Cthulhu Mythos RPG -The Sleeping Girl of the Miasma Sea-")... But they NEVER claimed to have anything to do with Chaosium, never mentioned anything about Chaosium, and probably never directly used anything originally created by Chaosium.
That's the miracle of copyright laws: System mechanics cannot be copyrighted, because they are ultimately a bunch of procedures. Then again if they can show that you did use stuffs that they can prove they created, then you'll be in a world of hurt. (Previous examples included: Sending a C&D to D&D in 1980. Had a "stern warning" to Japanese fan-made CoC scenarios a few years back, etc.)
Tl:dr, Lawyer-fights. v=3=v
So, well, you don't need to buy copyrights, and Chaosium most likely won't sell.
But you also have to triple check to make sure you didn't use ANYTHING AT ALL from Chaosium Inc, which will take maybe even more work than making the game itself.