【求教】关于混职系统（术士、先知、女巫）

[格里菲因]

好像混职没提战士等级，只有英勇这能力的等级

[泡泡。]

混职系统的正确翻译就是变体兼职系统，自己兼自己还是太怪了

如果是变体兼职系统，那很多判定就变了，假如说游侠（混职战士）能选择先决条件为“战士XX级”的专长吗？之前一直以为不可以的说~

这个变体的本质是用专长换一些职业特性，没写在决定专长的先决条件时把角色等级视为战士等级啊……

[ooppiiuu]

其实，更困难的问题是，诗人变体廷臣之眼语者拿人类fcb扩表到底可以不可以弄出催眠表缝诗人表的强者

廷臣之眼语者变体特性：
Spells: A speaker of the Palatine Eye draws his powers from the mysterious rites of the Esoteric Order of the Palatine Eye. He casts psychic spells from the mesmerist list instead of arcane spells from the bard spell list. He otherwise casts spells, learns spells, and determines his spell allotment and spell DCs as a bard.

人类fcb：
Human (Advanced Race Guide pg. 73, Advanced Player's Guide pg. 23): Add one spell known from the bard spell list. This spell must be at least one level below the highest spell level the bard can cast.

[杀菌@深坑未填]

在一场游戏中若同时使用这两种系统，角色不能在其混职了的次要职业上获得等级

两种系统是普通兼职系统和混职系统。萌新一开始以为：混职女巫的话，不能在兼职女巫。那么不兼职，本职是女巫的话，似乎就能混职女巫。

如何区分本质和兼职，难道1级战士开兼职19级法师他是战士本职吗？（）

[弑君者伊恩]

楼上和引用的这话说的多少有点没整明白了。

你有的职业等级都是本职，有多个本职的人物就是兼职人物

[银钥之门]

其实，更困难的问题是，诗人变体廷臣之眼语者拿人类fcb扩表到底可以不可以弄出催眠表缝诗人表的强者

廷臣之眼语者变体特性：
Spells: A speaker of the Palatine Eye draws his powers from the mysterious rites of the Esoteric Order of the Palatine Eye. He casts psychic spells from the mesmerist list instead of arcane spells from the bard spell list. He otherwise casts spells, learns spells, and determines his spell allotment and spell DCs as a bard.

人类fcb：
Human (Advanced Race Guide pg. 73, Advanced Player's Guide pg. 23): Add one spell known from the bard spell list. This spell must be at least one level below the highest spell level the bard can cast.

弄不出，人类fcb写的是加入自己已知，但是没写加入当前职业法术列表，你变体的职业表里没有原本诗人表的法术了，导致就算有已知也没法施法。p子论坛上以前就有人问过类似问题，艾恩石里面有个给戏法/祷念的，没法直接当扩表用。

[NOKO]

其实，更困难的问题是，诗人变体廷臣之眼语者拿人类fcb扩表到底可以不可以弄出催眠表缝诗人表的强者

確實是個困難的問題。在 FAQ 的影響下，基本是在詢問偏好職業獎勵（Favored Class Bonus）是否為該職業的職業特性。

我會說：是，以避免更麻煩的情況發生。

[ooppiiuu]

人类fcb写的是加入自己已知，但是没写加入当前职业法术列表，你变体的职业表里没有原本诗人表的法术了，导致就算有已知也没法施法。p子论坛上以前就有人问过类似问题，艾恩石里面有个给戏法/祷念的，没法直接当扩表用。

按你的逻辑，萨满的fcb直接废了：
 Add one spell from the cleric spell list that isn’t on the shaman spell list to the list of spells the shaman knows. This spell must be at least 1 level below the highest spell level the shaman can cast.

[longman123]

是啊，萨满这种拿了已知也不能放？
我也倾向于可以让他缝，不然要干废很多职业能力和FCB。

[银钥之门]

Take a look at Unsanctioned Knowledge:

Unsanctioned Knowledge wrote:
Benefit: Pick one 1st-level spell, one 2nd-level spell, one 3rd-level spell, and one 4th-level spell from the bard, cleric, inquisitor, or oracle spell lists. Add these spells to your paladin spell list as paladin spells of the appropriate level. Once chosen, these spells cannot be changed.
This feat specifically adds spells to the paladin spell list.

But let's say for the moment that paladin was spontaneous and had a list of spells known. If we changed Unsanctioned Knowledge as well so it read

Unsanctioned Knowledge wrote:
Benefit: Pick one 1st-level spell, one 2nd-level spell, one 3rd-level spell, and one 4th-level spell from the bard, cleric, inquisitor, or oracle spell lists. Add these spells to your paladin spells known as paladin spells of the same level. Once chosen, these spells cannot be changed.
Then you would need to pick spells from those lists that were also on the paladin spell list if you wanted to cast them. It would need to also state that they were added to the paladin spell list, like the original does.

As in the case of Unsanctioned Knowledge (and Samsaran's Mystic Past Life), all instances of intentional additions to a class's spell list should specifically indicate that the spells are added to the class's spell list.

说是能进表的都会特意写出来，但是实际上写faq的设计师和写书的都不是一波人，faq里面说了职业能力扩的已知可以正常用，大部分扩表的没啥影响，但是专长，奇物，fcb那种就难说了。
诗人那个你也可以判是它的表还是诗人表，只是变成了法术可选范围和催眠一样的异能版诗人列表，毕竟能力写的是代替表里的法术，拿已知的时候直接从新的异能诗人表拿，但是原本那些诗人表专有的法术，现在的确不在你现在的职业列表里了
自发人最惨的是神术人拿怪异梦景扩已知结果什么都放不出来，但是因为不是核心书的，设计师明确说了不会给怪异梦景出faq。