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5e Action surge+Sneak attack+ Assassinate 可有搞頭?
« 于: 2016-07-06, 周三 09:55:52 »
sneak attack的敘述是"Once per turn"
action surge 是
"On your turn, you can take one additional action on top of your regular action and a possible bonus action."

看起來小賊的偷襲目前沒手段突破Once per turn的限制?

本來想搞個LV3賊LV3戰來個突襲輪(4d8+4d6)*2的傷害.
« 上次编辑: 2016-07-06, 周三 09:57:39 由 Michel »
「步槍從我的雙手滑落。我無法置信。他真的走到海面上。一步,又一步。海水像一座液態的橋撐起他的雙足。他走了。廢除燈塔吧,
廢除我們的戰爭所建立的惡習。他明白無法與幻影爭辯,於是他迴避了幻影。他摧毀了所有的激情,所有的墮落,因為打從一開始,他
就放棄他們。那個男孩是世界的眼皮:只要再跨越一步,所有人都會從噩夢中甦醒。」- 亞伯特.桑契斯.皮紐

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Re: 5e Action surge+Sneak attack+ Assassinate 可有搞頭?
« 回帖 #1 于: 2016-07-06, 周三 10:38:28 »
如果队友有战技战的话可以靠commander's strike
没有队友的话,贼自己就只能靠AoO或者riposte了……但是突袭轮能不能用出来是个问题

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Re: 5e Action surge+Sneak attack+ Assassinate 可有搞頭?
« 回帖 #2 于: 2016-07-06, 周三 11:19:47 »
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A typical combat encounter is a clash between two sides, a f1urry of weapon swings, feints, parries, footwork, and spellcasting. The game organizes the chaos of combat into a cycle of rounds and turns.
A round represents about 6 seconds in the game world. During a round, each participant in a battle takes a turn.
 
The order of turns is determined at the beginning of a combat encounter, when everyone rolls initiative. Once everyone has taken a turn, the fight continues to the next round if neither side has defeated the other.

REACTIONS
Certain special abilities, spells, and situations allow you to take a special action called a reaction. A reaction is an instant response to a trigger of some kind, which
can occur on your turn ar on someone else's. The opportunity attack, described later in this chapter, is the most common type of reaction.
When you take a reaction, you can't take another one until the start of your next turn. If the reaction interrupts another creature's turn, that creature can continue its turn right after the reaction.


問題在於, reaction算不算你的另一個turn.


「步槍從我的雙手滑落。我無法置信。他真的走到海面上。一步,又一步。海水像一座液態的橋撐起他的雙足。他走了。廢除燈塔吧,
廢除我們的戰爭所建立的惡習。他明白無法與幻影爭辯,於是他迴避了幻影。他摧毀了所有的激情,所有的墮落,因為打從一開始,他
就放棄他們。那個男孩是世界的眼皮:只要再跨越一步,所有人都會從噩夢中甦醒。」- 亞伯特.桑契斯.皮紐

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Re: 5e Action surge+Sneak attack+ Assassinate 可有搞頭?
« 回帖 #3 于: 2016-07-06, 周三 12:38:10 »
p.189
A typical combat encounter is a clash between two sides, a f1urry of weapon swings, feints, parries, footwork, and spellcasting. The game organizes the chaos of combat into a cycle of rounds and turns.
A round represents about 6 seconds in the game world. During a round, each participant in a battle takes a turn.
 
The order of turns is determined at the beginning of a combat encounter, when everyone rolls initiative. Once everyone has taken a turn, the fight continues to the next round if neither side has defeated the other.

REACTIONS
Certain special abilities, spells, and situations allow you to take a special action called a reaction. A reaction is an instant response to a trigger of some kind, which
can occur on your turn ar on someone else's. The opportunity attack, described later in this chapter, is the most common type of reaction.
When you take a reaction, you can't take another one until the start of your next turn. If the reaction interrupts another creature's turn, that creature can continue its turn right after the reaction.


問題在於, reaction算不算你的另一個turn.
Jeremy Crawford和MM都说过可以用AoO触发偷袭,那应该就不算自己turn了吧……
当然faq什么的,DM的意见也是很重要的 :em013

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« 上次编辑: 2016-07-06, 周三 13:07:30 由 Michel »
「步槍從我的雙手滑落。我無法置信。他真的走到海面上。一步,又一步。海水像一座液態的橋撐起他的雙足。他走了。廢除燈塔吧,
廢除我們的戰爭所建立的惡習。他明白無法與幻影爭辯,於是他迴避了幻影。他摧毀了所有的激情,所有的墮落,因為打從一開始,他
就放棄他們。那個男孩是世界的眼皮:只要再跨越一步,所有人都會從噩夢中甦醒。」- 亞伯特.桑契斯.皮紐

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Re: 5e Action surge+Sneak attack+ Assassinate 可有搞頭?
« 回帖 #5 于: 2016-07-07, 周四 17:54:51 »
个人想出来贼一轮可以有三次偷袭,自己回合一刀并用DMG的扩展动作标记,标记借机不算反应动作,这样两刀了,战士/游侠的指挥攻击用掉反应三刀。刺杀的话三刀是用不出来了,但在突袭之后可以靠这个配合队友将偷袭输出最大化。

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Re: 5e Action surge+Sneak attack+ Assassinate 可有搞頭?
« 回帖 #6 于: 2016-07-08, 周五 13:24:39 »
个人想出来贼一轮可以有三次偷袭,自己回合一刀并用DMG的扩展动作标记,标记借机不算反应动作,这样两刀了,战士/游侠的指挥攻击用掉反应三刀。刺杀的话三刀是用不出来了,但在突袭之后可以靠这个配合队友将偷袭输出最大化。

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「步槍從我的雙手滑落。我無法置信。他真的走到海面上。一步,又一步。海水像一座液態的橋撐起他的雙足。他走了。廢除燈塔吧,
廢除我們的戰爭所建立的惡習。他明白無法與幻影爭辯,於是他迴避了幻影。他摧毀了所有的激情,所有的墮落,因為打從一開始,他
就放棄他們。那個男孩是世界的眼皮:只要再跨越一步,所有人都會從噩夢中甦醒。」- 亞伯特.桑契斯.皮紐

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Re: 5e Action surge+Sneak attack+ Assassinate 可有搞頭?
« 回帖 #7 于: 2016-08-13, 周六 20:03:48 »
在DMG271左边。不好意思不常看回复现在才看到 :em003