[PF]基于要害打击（Vital strike）的build能做到战力（勉强）合格吗

[Narr]

在某個嚴格爛強群16級沒打三四五六百都是不及格的(咦

还有只开APGUCUMUE的滥强群吗，真是一帮有节操的滥强呢

恕我直言，就算只开APGUCUMUE，楼主的输出在16级也是咸鱼级的。

那还用说，主楼早就说清楚鶸了，否则楼主何必发这贴
所以才想说有没有办法提升一下这种VS build

提升？骚年你不换把武器么？

最近正在寻求武器上的提升
以小白我眼下能想到的，能拿的极限也就是大型单手武器和超大型轻型武器了，其中后者还不能上1.5倍力量，所以也就是大型重剑或者大型矮人重斧，都是中型1d10升到大型2d8
然后本来想说体型变大升到3d8，冲击附魔升到4d8，加个重压之刃升到6d8，现在看后两个不能重叠了所以只能到4d8，开狂怒终结的情况下就是一下子少了8*2*3=48点伤害，实在有点伤……暂时还没找到重新升到6d8的方式
或者莫非前辈能找到突破天际的钻头么（当然天武就算了

用大型种族变大，神话变大，血脉之力变大后再变大，和DM屁眼交易（不

不开神话……开了神话这些讨论还有什么意义
PY交易的话最多或许能忽悠到掉链子（虽然和尚肯定不会开……），那么如果加上掉链子的话还有机会么

对了 如果是DM权限最大的话 可以开奈科斯虫子啊 起手大体型 ....能8d6了呢

DM不想开太多……现在最多放宽到开放UCUMUE以及UCa和Unchained（和尚除外）这一批U字辈的扩展，外加APG或许还有ARG里的Core Races部分，在这个框架下还有机会么

[Narr]

在某個嚴格爛強群16級沒打三四五六百都是不及格的(咦

还有只开APGUCUMUE的滥强群吗，真是一帮有节操的滥强呢

恕我直言，就算只开APGUCUMUE，楼主的输出在16级也是咸鱼级的。

那还用说，主楼早就说清楚鶸了，否则楼主何必发这贴
所以才想说有没有办法提升一下这种VS build

提升？骚年你不换把武器么？

总不成拿一把超大型阳炎剑吧……这也太灰了吧

[Noven]

蛮子的变体已经修改过了

具体查prd

[Narr]

蛮子的变体已经修改过了

具体查prd

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/classArchetypes/barbarian.html

Titan Mauler (Archetype)
In lands overrun by giants, dragons, and other hulking beasts, entire fellowships of barbarians hone tactics and traditions with one purpose—to bring low these massive foes. While her enemies' size makes the creatures strong, the titan mauler is even stronger, taking up weapons from her fallen foes that no lesser warrior can lift, and using them when she beseeches the spirits to grant her increased size and greater ferocity against her titanic foes.

Big Game Hunter (Ex): A titan mauler gains a +1 bonus on attack rolls and a +1 dodge bonus to AC in melee with creatures larger than themselves. This ability replaces fast movement.

Jotungrip (Ex): At 2nd level, a titan mauler may choose to wield a two-handed weapon in one hand with a –2 penalty on attack rolls while doing so. The weapon must be appropriately sized for her, and it is treated as one-handed when determining the effect of Power Attack, Strength bonus to damage, and the like. This ability replaces uncanny dodge.

Massive Weapons (Ex): At 3rd level, a titan mauler becomes skilled in the use of massive weapons looted from her titanic foes. She can use two-handed weapons meant for creatures one size category larger, but the penalty for doing so is increased by 4. However, the attack roll penalty for using weapons too large for her size is reduced by 1, and this reduction increases by 1 for every three levels beyond 3rd (to a minimum of 0). This ability replaces trap sense.

Evade Reach (Ex): At 5th level, as a swift action, a titan mauler may choose one creature within her line of sight. Until the end of her turn, that target's reach is treated as if it were 5 feet shorter with respect to reaching the titan mauler, and this reduction increases by 5 feet for every five levels beyond 5th. This ability replaces improved uncanny dodge.

Titanic Rage (Su): At 14th level, a titan mauler may choose to gain the benefits of enlarge person when she enters a rage. While using titanic rage, she must spend 2 rounds of rage per round, and she becomes exhausted rather than fatigued when the rage ends. This ability replaces indomitable will.

Rage Powers: The following rage powers complement the titan mauler archetype: body bludgeon, greater ground breaker, ground breaker, knockback, mighty swing, powerful blow, smasher, and strength surge.

喔确实改了，虽然跟约顿之握无关，但是现在擅长巨兵自动给大一号的双手武器了……虽然减值略高，一共要-5吧
这样的话，大型双手武器最高到3d6，体型和武器伤害各升一次就是6d6，精通暴击+狂怒终结就是18d6取满108，加上调整值46也就是154……还是不够看啊不够看
如果真的可以拿超大型阳炎剑这种东西的话，那就是-4的减值拿3d8，体型和武器伤害各升一次就是6d8，精通暴击+狂怒终结就是18d8取满144，加上调整值46也就是190……不够看的程度似乎稍微小了一点

[davinci]

混源13巨人蛮3，穿幻灵超大进化+变巨术获得巨型体型，越型武器拿高1体型武器就有8d6巨剑伤害了吧，如果能再用重压之刃或冲击附魔加到超越超巨型1级就破表了

體型改變分成實際體型改變和有效體型改變的问题没搞太懂，就是说实际体型改变3级，有效体型改变1级，实际最高还是3级？

[白貓]

混源13巨人蛮3，穿幻灵超大进化+变巨术获得巨型体型，越型武器拿高1体型武器就有8d6巨剑伤害了吧，如果能再用重压之刃或冲击附魔加到超越超巨型1级就破表了

體型改變分成實際體型改變和有效體型改變的问题没搞太懂，就是说实际体型改变3级，有效体型改变1级，实际最高还是3级？

4級，那條faq是在說你身上同時有實際(或有效)體型改變1級,2級,3級時，本身不疊加只取最高(結果是3級而不是1+2+3=6級)，但實際和有效可疊加。

[davinci]

多谢，那实际越型武器和重压之刃是否就是同类型？看来最大止步于4级

[Narr]

用混元的话无法循环狂怒终结是个问题吧……就真的变成一锤子买卖了

毕竟纯RAW来看狂怒终结的强制疲乏对绑腰绳和免疫疲乏的效果是通用的

[Bedwyr]

恕我冒昧问一个或许很蠢的问题 纯8级吊链僧怎么拿千手百裂的，专长位好像不对啊

[丞相]

恕我冒昧问一个或许很蠢的问题 纯8级吊链僧怎么拿千手百裂的，专长位好像不对啊

精徒打自带，1级奖励拿闪避，6级奖励拿灵活移动。还有千手3个专长和猛力攻击，对应1、3、5、7四个专长。
至于你问怎么在8级拿专长？少年，你听说过重训么。