咳咳，就算你们在这里讨论也不会让设计过九剑的某设计师尊重法系啊············
“战士是最受欢迎的职业”不正是某人说的嘛········而且显然黑科技可能就是为了显得战士“明明能打过法系却就因为几个设计失误的BUG法术被压”而激起战士玩家的不满产生进一步削弱法系的借口的说············
反正我的意见就是法系再被削就不玩5e了，毕竟这直接表明了设计师已经不打算满足所有玩家，而只打算满足自己和和自己一样喜好的玩家而已了。
不过奇怪的是，老外对黑科技法术的接受度倒是很高。前提是拟象只有一个，真变只在持续时间内变自己人，许愿只模拟八环或以下法术的话·········
顺便所谓的“队伍第一人”仍然被认为是法师，牧师和德鲁伊·········
我们真的是玩的同一个游戏咩 
原文： Wizards, Clerics, and Druids rule Tier 1 again. Fortunately, martial characters are no lower than Tier 4, and many, like the Monk, Paladin, and possibly Rogue are Tier 3.
以及：Yeah, the tiers are much different, if they really still exist at all. I'd postulate something along the lines of:
T1
Wizard
Cleric
Druid
Bard
T2:
Sorcerer
Warlock
T3:
Paladin
Barbarian
Rogue
Monk
Fighter
T4:
Ranger
Though T1 isn't nearly as high as it used to be. In fact you could comfortable collapse Sorc into T1 and Warlock as a high T3, and make it really a full caster/non-full caster thing, with Rangers just being at the bottom of the latter list.
前略天国的游侠，连老外都看的出来问题的职业·············
另一个版本是这样的，确实不再存在3R意义上的T1职业
Tier 2:
Bard
Wizard
Druid
Cleric
Sorcerer
Tier 3:
Warlock
Paladin
Tier 4:
Monk
Rogue
Fighter
Barbarian
Ranger
Tier 5:
Champion fighter
Beastmaster ranger
